But I waiver between about 6 different POIs. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? I believe it was from a first responder. The killer would have no tie to either girl except that they were the target of his boss. Im hooked on reading about this case. I think it was a stranger. The people who end up owing are typically dealers down the chain to the suppliers. I remember when this happened, and thinking that they would have someone in no time. The links won't post here. She was nominated for a 1974 Joseph Jefferson Award for Best Actress in a Principal Role for her performance in "Separate Tables", at the Ivanhoe Theatre in Chicago, Illinois. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. I wish someone with money or connections would help these families hire a private investigator or lawyer to access additional details on the case. Carter added that investigators believe the suspect was between 18 and 40 years old, but likely looks much younger than his age. Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? Such a smart little girl. Sorry R91 posted it before I read through. What I found interesting, is when she is asked about it she simply states that he was trying to help, which to me does not sound like a denial. The cause of death for the girls has never been released. R435, it could also speak to the outfits for that area. tragic. They then posed for pictures standing on the murdered children's graves. one committed with an uncommon/makeshift weapon. Investigators have released two grainy images from that video that shows a man were to believe was behind the girls on that bridge, a short clip of that man walking, an audio recording of a man presumably the same one saying Guys. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. I agree R307, I think this is their man. Kim Riley says investigators have interviewed over 1,000 people, including possible witnesses, suspects and anyone who may have information about suspicious activity on the day the girls went missing. Its like Holden Caulfield observed, people always ruin things. Those trails at probably really pretty and fun for teens to hang out on (instead of being at home on their phones) but this asshole had to ruin that. But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. WebDelphi Cajetana Holzman: Occupation: actress: Age: 70 years old : Zodiac Sign: Aries : Born: 23 March 1932: Birthday: 23 March: Birthplace: Hampstead, London, England, UK: There are three key pieces of evidence that have been released by authorities. Please click here to register for free. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. They were reported missing a day earlier shortly after Libby posted a final image to Snapchat of Abby, showing her traversing the tracks of the bridge trail. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. I cant go back to sleep now I need to know what happened to that girl on Facebook! (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. He does say, in the 2020 HLN podcast, that signatures are there. r288 that's chilling. Im sure I sound kooky, but ithese details were so obvious and couldnt be ignored. i would think there would be some DNA or something from crime scene. Police did not elaborate as to specifically why police believe the account may be tied to the murders of Abby and Liberty. I do hope the killer is not in or related to LE and being protected. I still keep thinking that it probably was Chadwell. This case has really resonated with sleuth-wannabe fraus. This isnt him. They have created a new team to look at this case off-site. One of them started filming him but stuck her phone in her pocket when he got close so he wouldn't see it. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. Especially, when they had to be driven to the secluded location. That is an extremely rare height, isn't it? Kim Riley with the Indiana State Police. Why are some of you being such assholes? With video, audio etc, I was sure of this and thought the girl who kept her phone going was so smart. I cannot find any source of Robert Ives, former Carroll Co prosecutor, stating anything about non-secular signatures. The source code for the WIKI 2 extension is being checked by specialists of the Mozilla Foundation, Google, and Apple. I question the credibility because the "graphics editor" is wearing Lee press-on nails while pointing to something in those grainy pictures. I think that the escort who blew the whistle on the Lafayette's Men Club that shared girls and subjected them to horrible abuse + the Judge who had to resign could be part of the Delphi Murders. It's hard to believe the DNA found under Libbys nails has yielded nothing. That tattoo made my blood freeze. You could also do it yourself at any point in time. As for the FBI, are they even involved? r64, explain. This speaks to an evidentiary aspect of the investigation and I would respectfully prefer not to answer. The sheriff also had notable body language that could be interpreted as guilt or fear. They also say they now believe that the second sketch is a more accurate depiction of the suspect, although the actual suspect may likely be a mix between both sketches. His wife Cantor Cathy Lawrence confirmed the news to The Hollywood Reporter but did not specify a cause of death at the time. Why didn't the killer didn't take the phone? WEST CHESTER Delphi Lawrence had been dead a little over a year when Chester County Common Pleas Court Judge Thomas A. Pitt Jr. called the case of The crimes are very similiar. The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. I'm from Australia and expressed my sympathy and hope that the murderer/s would be caught swiftly. It's too long to post them here. It was emphasized that the police department felt like the perpetrator was present at the briefing. Immediately before the abduction, one girl posted a photo of her friend walking on the bridge to Snapchat. Every tip received is entered into an FBI system called Pyramid. That system stores information like names, descriptions and motives so it can be cross-referenced with other tips locally and across the country to find any possible connections. Recent long list of Tobe answering questions. So were trying to keep the details close to our vests.. For more than two years. If you look at the link, they have some of his social media photos and you'll see what I mean. Am looking for the photos and came across this. But, it still doesn't feel like he's the killer. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. [quote] Libertys father fingered two meth dealers. I bet those residents are furious and if they knew the name of a local guy, someone would go for him. We don't know if they were posed. The link below is for the big informative tattoo comparison thread. Whoever the SOB he follows the threads closely, and more than likely gets a sick thrill from posting as well . I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. Between the similar looks and the fact of his crime being almost identical to the Delphi murders, I really feel he is the killer. She was a veteran of the Royal Variety Performance and was commissioned for a Hes a young looking 42. Also, it looks as if he is carrying weapons, or a possible "kill kit". Oh Dear, this is so just so close to home! I really want this guy to pay. I dont believe the abortion by murder story. husband, Laurie Sautereau, at their home in Fulham, west London, on Saturday, had committed suicide. A. Though, playing devil's advocate, there could have been other reasons he wanted to pretend he lived in Las Vegas, given he had been arrested for other crimes. He decapitated one of his victims and posed get body so that it seemed as if she was looking at her body lying on the bed. He felt humiliated and was deeply angry. Look at his left ear in the photo and the left ear of the first sketch. Somebody out there knows who this person is. I think the most simple answer is it wouldn't help the public identify the perpetrator, LE wouldn't gain anything with it, but it could hurt the case. Is this case the result of two stupid young girls who didn't get the FUCK out of dodge when they had the chance OR a bumbling homicide department? Email us at exclusive@the-sun.com or call 212 416 4552. Not knowing the cause of death makes it worse because any terrible thing you can imagine could be true Did anyone watch the HSN special tonight? Wish they had a chance to push the fucker off the bridge. Why haven't we heard anything? At 70 years old, Delphi Lawrence height not available right now. There is part of the video of one of the girls reactions that haunts one of the investigators. R203 I saw that too, BUT he isnt the only person who suspects this dude. "We've likely interviewed you or someone close to you.". Also learn how She earned most of Delphi Lawrence networth? possible exit route of the killer(s)? Hello. A real weirdo. Why are people so literal-minded? I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. R18 I have heard that there is 7 minutes and also 40 minutes. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. R171that was my first thought when I checked her facebook pagehe's really into kidsmissing kids. Maybe thats because the assailant was there to carry out a revenge killing/warning to Derek German for snitching and couldnt or wasnt willing to rape one or both tweens, and so killed them and left the bodies posed in a provacative, profane way to hurt the families and community. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. A grease fire is too good for him. As far as I've heard. It was very suspect, imo. As someone who has known drug dealers, there are no owsies in that world. She lost a shoe on a private driveway on the side of the creek where the bodies were found. The scarves seem like a true report as Ive seen it over and over. They said that Bridge Guy seen in Libby's video we've seen isn't necessarily the man who said, "Down the hill, guys", In the audio after the portion that we've seen and heard, there is more that we haven't seen & heard - Libby asks Abby if the creepy guy is still there. A good case can take time to develop. Did this have something to do with the murders? Oh thank you R226, R227! That's the walk of a guy with bad knees or something. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. Chadwell is such a great suspect, I bet it's him. The BG seemed older and walked differently. . As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. Apparently an agent was home visiting family there when it happened and brought the FBI in. A woman who lives in the area of the murders had complained to the man (RL) whose barn may have been used for the murders that she saw some guy cooking meth at the cemetery. The guy was a stranger to them. But he could have absolutely targeted both, as did Ted Bundy at Lake Sammish. Ive read one girl appeared to have been killed quickly, almost as an afterthought, and the other seemed to have been the target of his rage. R113 I have read that a tree branch was inserted into Abbys abdomen, but not sure how (as in pressed into her stomach or inserted into her vagina). The True Crime Garage podcast just dropped a 3 part episode all focused on one person of Interest. This perp needs to be caught and fried. Holy crap, now that I see the suspect, I can see how someone could have come up with both sketches. I believe the current theory is that it's actually Kline's father that is the prime suspect for the murders. I couldnt help but be drawn but the sheriffs face/expressions and it did occur to me that he resembled the Bridge Guy. Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. Im thinking he worked for it or drive a truck which made pick ups or drops off for it. This idea that they were lured there or they revealed on SM where they would be is very interesting. I wonder if investigators could have worked out approximate height from the video, since that would have been a good tip to look out for. I mentioned it on that thread. Thanks R5 I did search and didnt find anything. Knife kit, imo. Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. Sadistic beyond words. While specifying a bullet was found at the scene, nowhere in the document does it suggest that either of the two girls was shot. And R364, you're an asshole. Lawrence's death was not being treated as suspicious. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. Throughout the evening dozens of volunteers joined the search for the girls. Ok, maybe this screenshot shows why I see a younger guy loaded with stuff. The original sketch could be a young but unfit/chubby man and to me there is a definite resemblance. Although the science of DNA was largely unknown in 1972, when Garnett was tried, there is the possibility that tests could be done now. Shocker. She got up and pushed at him, and he grabbed her by the throat. Hours later, when they failed to meet their ride home at that same location it would kick off a series of events that would forever change the tiny town of Delphi, Indiana. Thanks to the poster for the info on the upcoming HLN update. 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